New EW Silver Discovery – Alf Field Febr 2012

February 1st, 2012 by goldswitzerland
Alf Field predicts $ 158 as the next target for silver

Alf Field, my good friend and Elliott Wave Expert par excellence, has produced a superb analysis on silver forecasting that the next objective for silver is $ 158 which corresponds with his $ 4,500 target for gold.

Egon von Greyerz

A new Elliott Wave Silver Discovery

By Alf Field

 

I have received numerous emails asking about silver. This article was prompted by a question enquiring what the silver price might be if my gold forecast of $4,500 proved to be correct.The question caused me to take a closer look at silver.

The reason why I have written very little about silver in the past was because the beautiful Elliott Wave (EW) symmetry and predictable relationships visible in gold were not to be found in silver. This article reveals a new EW discovery that proves that EW is alive and well and living in silver.
I first wrote about silver in December 2003 in an article titled “US Dollar Implosion – Part II”. The link to this article is at: http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_03/field120503.html. The brief piece on silver was tacked onto the end of that article. In view of its brevity, the 2003 silver piece is reproduced in full below:

SILVER

“In past crises, the wealthy protected themselves by purchasing gold and gold related assets. Ordinary people, by far the greater number, could rarely afford to buy gold. Being far cheaper, they previously had to buy silver. This metal became the poor man’s choice as an asset to protect their savings. Silver has so far lagged gold in the early stages of this bull market, but that situation seems about to change.”

“Throughout recorded history the average relationship between silver and gold has been 15oz silver to 1oz gold. The ratio at present is a far higher 75:1 ($400/$5.30). This is massively out of line. If gold were to double to $800 per oz, it would not be unreasonable to expect the silver/gold ratio to decline sharply, possibly as low as 40:1. With gold at $800, this would position silver at $20.

Thus a 100% increase in the price of gold could possibly be accompanied by a simultaneous 400% increase (perhaps more) in the price of silver. This offers significant opportunities both in silver bullion and silver mining shares.

The above graph of the price of silver has been borrowed from an excellent recent article by Dan Norcini entitled “A Technical Look at Silver – Update”. What is quite clear from the graph is that silver’s 22-year bear market down trend has come to an end. As Dan Norcini says, a new bull market in silver has been born. It is difficult to argue against this contention and I have no intention of doing so. A silver price above $6.80 would complete a fabulous head-and-shoulders base formation. With this as a foundation, it would be possible to project a very large rise in the price of silver for the future.” – end of the December 2003 quotation.

Silver did reach $20.68 in March 2008 at the same time that gold peaked at $1003. The silver to gold ratio was thus 48.5 in March 2008. The lowest this ratio has reached is about 32, achieved at the end of April 2011 when gold was around $1570 and silver peaked in the $49 area. At that point gold had experienced a 6-fold increase from its bull market starting point of $255 while the silver price rose 12-fold from its bull market starting point of $4 in November 2001.

The quick answer to the question of what the silver price will be when gold gets to $4,500 is to pick your favorite silver/gold ratio and divide it into $4500. The current ratio incidentally is about 51. If you choose the lowest ratio achieved since 2001 of 32 that would produce a silver price of around $140 ($4500 divided by 32).

This is not a satisfactory answer, so I decided to approach the Elliott Wave analysis of silver from a different angle. Instead of working upwards using the analysis of the minor waves, which was the technique used in the gold calculations, what if we worked backwards in silver starting with the larger waves?

Gold and silver tend to move in tandem, not in an exact synchronization, but enough to suggest that the Major waves of both metals should coincide from a time perspective. We know that in gold the Major ONE wave peaked in March 2008 at $1003 and that Major TWO declined to $680 in November 2008.

Silver also had a peak in March 2008 at $20.68 and declined to an important low of $8.77 in November 2008. If we assumed that the peak at $20.68 in March 2008 was the end of Major ONE and the decline to $8.77 the end of Major TWO, how would the various percentages work out? When I did these calculations I was astonished at the relationships and wave counts that emerged.

The chart below is the monthly spot silver price shown in log scale so that the percentage changes are visible. The bull market started in November 2001 at a price of $4.02. From that point to the suggested peak of Major ONE at $20.68 there are five clear waves visible, marked 1-2-3-4-5. The prices at the various turning points are also displayed.

 

 

The analysis of the suggested Major ONE wave is set out in the body of the chart. The typical impulse wave relationships are immediately apparent. Both corrective waves 2 and 4 are similar (-33.7% and -35.9%). Whenever two corrective waves are similar it is a signal that they are part of the same larger wave structure. On its own, this fact would confirm that the 5 wave move from $4.02 to $20.68 was a complete wave of larger degree.

There is further corroborating evidence. Waves 1 and 5 are similar at +106% and +115%, a usual EW feature. Wave 3 should be the longest wave, and it is at +171%. In addition, if one multiplies the gain in wave 1 of +106% by 1.618 it produces 171.5%, exactly the gain in wave 3. These relationships are evidence that the rise from $4.02 to $20.68 is a completed impulse wave and that we can call it Major ONE.

Having completed this 5 wave up move, the next correction in Major TWO would be expected to be one degree larger than the two corrections of 33.7% and 35.9% in Major ONE. As shown on the chart, Major TWO declined from $20.68 to $8.77, a loss of -57.6%. The two corrections of 33.7% and 35.9% are close to the Fibonacci 34. The next higher number in the sequence is 55, close to the actual decline of 57.6% in major TWO. Incidentally, if we take the 35.9% decline and multiply it by 1.618, it gives a figure of 58%, very close to the actual decline of 57.6%.

These relationships suggest that silver has completed the same shaped bull market as gold has and that it is at the same stage in its development. Thus silver has probably also completed the first intermediate up wave of Major THREE, in this case from $8.77 to $49.52, a gain of +$40.75 or +464% and has also completed intermediate wave 2 of Major THREE, being the decline from $49.52 to $26.39 or -47%.

How does this decline of -47% measure up in terms of EW relationships? As with gold, where the corrections in Major THREE were shown to be larger than the corrections in Major ONE, the same applies to silver. The corrections in Major ONE shown in the chart above were close to -34%. If we multiply 34% by another Fibonacci relationship of 1.382 we get 47%!

This is mind-blowing stuff for an analyst who did not believe that EW applied to silver!

We can now attempt to make some price forecasts. Silver, as with gold, is starting intermediate wave 3 of Major THREE, which should be the longest and strongest wave in the bull market. It should certainly be longer than intermediate wave 1 which was the gain from $8.77 to $49.52, or +464%, as shown above.

Thus the gain in wave 3 of Major THREE should be larger than +464%. It should be a gain of at least 500%. Starting from the $26.39 low, a gain of 500% would produce a target price of $158.34 for silver. That is the number which equates with the $4500 price forecast for gold and produces a silver to gold ratio of 28.4 ($4500 divided by 158.34).

The gain in gold was forecast to be 200% for this move while the forecast rise in the silver price is 500%. Silver is again predicted to perform better than gold based on these EW calculations.

A word of caution is appropriate at this stage. All EW studies are based on probabilities. While the wave counts may provide a high degree of confidence in the forecasts, one cannot be 100% certain of any forecast. It is necessary to have a point at which it is obvious that the forecasts are wrong. In the case of this silver study, the line in the sand is at $26.00. If the silver price drops below $26.00 the odds are that the above calculations will not work out.

A further word of caution: silver is not for the faint hearted. Silver is considerably more volatile than gold and the corrections are much larger. Silver corrections can and do happen quickly. They are emotionally gut-wrenching and it is easy to get shaken out of one’s position near the bottom of a large correction.

Alf Field

1 February 2012

Disclosure and Disclaimer Statement: The author has personal investments in gold and silver bullion, as well as in gold, silver, uranium and base metal mining shares. The author’s objective in writing this article is to interest potential investors in this subject to the point where they are encouraged to conduct their own further diligent research. Neither the information nor the opinions expressed should be construed as a solicitation to buy or sell any stock, currency or commodity. Investors are recommended to obtain the advice of a qualified investment advisor before entering into any transactions. The author has neither been paid nor received any other inducement to write this article.


Gold Market Positioned for Massive Upside Move

January 31st, 2012 by goldswitzerland
With Central Bank balance sheets exploding and no solution to the EU problems or the US deficits, unlimited money printing will accelerate.

Egon von Greyerz covers these topics in two recent interviews with King World News and Metallwoche in Germany.

King World News interview with Egon von Greyerz 30 January:
“Gold Market Positioned for Massive Upside Move”

Frank Meyer’s Die MetallWoche 29 January (audio and written):
“Money Printing Everywhere”
This latter interview is also in German for our German readers.

King World News brief report from Egon von Greyerz posted on the KWN blog on January 30.

Gold Market Positioned for Massive Upside Move

Today Egon von Greyerz told King World News that central bank balance sheets are expanding at a dangerous rate and this is a recipe for an explosion in gold and silver prices. Egon von Greyerz is founder and managing partner at Matterhorn Asset Management out of Switzerland. Here is what von Greyerz had to say about central bank activity and how it will impact gold and silver prices: “I’ve been looking at the explosion of the balance sheets of the central banks and it’s just astonishing to see how much money they are printing and how their balance sheets are expanding. We have the absolute perfect recipe for hyperinflation and thus a massive increase in the price of gold and silver.”

January 30, 2012

Egon von Greyerz continues:

“It’s not just the ECB balance sheet that’s gone up in the last six months or even the last three months by hundreds of billions of dollars. It’s the same with the Fed, Bank of Japan, The Bank of England and the Swiss National Bank, they are all exploding. This can lead to only one thing and the market seems to be totally ignorant of this.

The repercussions are going to come very soon. As I said, this can only lead to one thing, an explosion higher in gold and silver prices and the beginning of the massive inflation, which will lead to hyperinflation.”

When asked about the Fed announcement last week, von Greyerz replied, “The Fed action is totally consistent with what we’ve said for some time. The Fed knows they have to continue to print money and they will print unlimited amounts of money. On top of this, the US is not taking any measures whatsoever to cut down on spending.

“Every year the Fed is printing between $1.5 trillion and $2 trillion. As you know, just during President Obama’s term the debt in the US has gone up by about $4.5 trillion. This is about 30% of total borrowing in the US. It’s just incredible and it’s accelerating.

But they are not the only central bank doing this. The ECB is in the same mess. The ECB is meeting again, but I would be surprised if they come to any decision. Greece will probably default because they won’t accept the EU having control over their finances. The EU doesn’t want Greece to default because it would be bad for the other European countries, so they will probably come up with a package. I don’t expect that package will be now, but at some point in the future.”

When asked about the action in gold and silver, von Greyerz responded, “The move in gold, so far, looks extremely good. I’m always pleased that we don’t have a straight move up, although I do think we will have faster moves higher in the not too distant future. This is strong action with small corrections.

We are at $1,730 today and I think within the next couple of months we will certainly be touching $1,900 and continuing higher from there. I don’t think $1,900 will be a stopping point for very long.

I really like the action of silver. Silver still hasn’t broken out like gold has, but as I said to you last time, I expect that to happen soon. It will break out around the $37 level. That’s going to happen very quickly because the gold/silver ratio is moving down nicely, but I think it will soon accelerate lower and silver will move a lot faster to the upside than gold.

So I can see $37 being taken out within the next 30 days and then we will just start flying from there. It won’t take long to get up to $50 again.”

When asked about the mining shares, von Greyerz stated, “I like them here. We’ve started buying them. We prefer physical bullion, but we’ve now started buying mining shares because they are massively undervalued and they will move a lot faster than the metals.

As I said, I like them now and I think it’s the right time for investors to buy them or add to positions because I think an acceleration higher in the mining shares is coming.”


Die Metallwoche Interview with Egon von Greyerz

January 31st, 2012 by admin golds

Metallwoche international – presents Egon von Greyerz „Money printing everywhere“

With another EU- Summit just in front of us and Gold and Silber strengthening again, we speak to Egon von Greyerz not only about the market, but also about the worldwide debt crisis and how he judges the situation with his view out of Switzerland. Von Greyerz is the Founder and Managing Partner of Matterhorn Asset Management (MAM) and its Precious Metals Division – GoldSwitzerland, based in Zurich Switzerland.

Egon von Greyerz makes regular media appearances such as on CNBC and BBC and also speaks at investment conferences around the world. He also publishes articles on the world economy and wealth preservation which are featured on websites such as The Daily Reckoning, JSMineset (Jim Sinclair), Zerohedge, GATA, Casey Research, , 321Gold, 24hGold, Gold Eagle and many others. EVG is a frequent guest with James Turk of Goldmoney and Eric King from Kingworldnews.

We talk to Egon about the current situation in Europe, the problems with debts, the role of the ECB and the IWF, Greece and how Germany will handle the situation. We talk about the gigantic bubble in derivatives, threatening developments concerning the pension funds, the role of the central banks, manipulation of gold, the bullion banks and much more. Von Greyerz gives us also an interesting update on his current view on Switzerland. Is it still a safe and stable country you can rely on and store your physical precious metals safely? And of course we talk about his views on Gold and Silver.

The interview with Egon von Greyerz was done by Michael, from Metallwoche.de

Enjoy the show!


KWN interview with EvG Jan 23, 2012

January 26th, 2012 by goldswitzerland
Eric King of King World News again had a brief telephone interview with Egon von Greyerz posted on the KWN blog on January 23.

Von Greyerz – Gold Breaking Out, Will Hit New All-Time Highs

The full interview before the not unexpected Fed announcement of Jan 25, 2012:
With gold attacking the critical $1,680 level and silver remaining strong above $32, today King World News interviewed the man who told clients in 2002, when gold was $300, to put up to 50% of their assets into physical gold. Egon von Greyerz is founder and managing partner at Matterhorn Asset Management out of Switzerland. When asked about the recent action in gold, von Greyerz said, “Sometimes we get lucky with our calls. I called the bottom of gold when we talked around the end of December. When we spoke last week I said it looks to me like silver is going to break out here and this is exactly what is happening. This is very good action and it’s as we expected.”

Egon von Greyerz continues:

“Silver is leading and the gold/silver ratio is coming down quite rapidly. I think we will see a strong fall in the gold/silver ratio. This just means silver will continue to go up faster than gold. When looking at gold, on a closing basis, it has already broken out. We might see some sideways action around these levels, but gold is breaking out and is on its way to new highs in my view.

Silver has a little way to go before it breaks out, that’s around the $37 level (the breakout). But, again, the action in silver is very good and I think we could go higher quite quickly. So, overall, very good action and I think it will continue….

“I think the next few months we will see very strong action and I could see a rapid move back to the highs of $50 and then through that level, to new highs, after a bit of consolidation. So gold and silver are going to move very quickly to the upside.

This is more of a dollar move right now. If you look at gold in other currencies, it is more or less going sideways here. So the fall of the dollar is helping with this move. For gold to rise against all currencies at once is unusual, but longer-term gold will continue to rise against all of the currencies.”

When asked about the mining shares, von Greyerz stated, “They have bottomed and as we both know they are substantially undervalued. I see major moves taking place in the mining shares. A lot of this action in gold is linked to QE. The ECB is printing money now by lending, banks in Europe, massive amounts of money. They lent, just before Christmas, 500 billion euros and they are continuing to lend major amounts.

Without this lending the banks will not survive, especially the French and the Spanish banks. Just last week they had about 15 billion from the ECB. So, the ECB lends them money and this is a different form of QE.

By lending the banks money, what do the banks do with the money? Well, they borrow the money for nothing or at 1% and give the ECB toxic debt, in return, as security. Then they buy government bonds for the money they get. So the ECB gets the money back again. It’s just incredible, it’s a form of a Ponzi Scheme, combined with money printing.

The banks are improving their balance sheets and the ECB just keeps printing money. This is what gold is reacting to. We also know the Fed is doing a similar thing with their currency swaps. So QE is there and will accelerate. Without that the banking system, as I’ve said, will not survive.”

Click here to read the von Greyerz interview on the KWN Blog with direct links to other very interesting and recent interviews with leading experts in the financial business community


GOLD CORRECTION IS OVER by Alf Field

January 12th, 2012 by goldswitzerland
I am very pleased to share with our clients and readers my good friend Alf Field’s latest article on gold.  Alf, who is based in Sydney, is one of the world’s most prominent forecasters on gold. He now believes that gold has  started a major upmove to at least $4,500. Alf Field, Eric Sprott, John Embry and Egon von Greyerz, were Keynote speakers at the recent 2011 Gold Symposium in Sydney Australia.
Egon von Greyerz
GOLD CORRECTION IS OVER
By Alf Field

There is a strong probability that the correction in the price of gold has been completed. This article has four separate sections. They are:

  • The Elliott Wave (EW) justification for thinking that the correction in gold is over.
  • Why corrections happen in gold from a fundamental viewpoint.
  • The extent to which manipulation affects the gold price.
  • A possible “black swan” event that could trigger a gold price surge.

Justification for the end of the gold price correction:

In EW terms, the correction consists of three waves, an A wave down, a B wave rally and a final C wave decline. There is usually a relationship between the A and C waves. Often they are equal or have a Fibonacci connection. The chart below is of the gold price using PM fixings:

In this case, the A and C waves are equal in percentage terms at 14.5% and 14.7%. The overall decline from $1895 to $1531 is -$364 or -19.2%. My speech to the Sydney Gold Symposium last November – link at http://www.symposium.net.au/files/4ec58abcb729a.pdf – showed that the largest corrections in the previous Intermediate wave from $700 to $1895 were about 12% in PM fixings. The forecast was that the current correction from $1895 would be one degree of magnitude larger than 12%. A decline of 19.2% qualifies as one degree larger than 12%.

An interesting observation is that if 12% is multiplied by the Fibonacci relationship of 1.618, the result is 19.4%, very close to the actual 19.2% decline for the correction. The chart below is of the gold price in Comex 2mth forward prices:

The Gold Symposium speech suggested that the correction would be between 21% and 26% in spot gold prices. The actual decline was from $1920 to $1523, a loss of -$397, or -20.7%. This is just below the target range but qualifies as one degree larger than the 14% corrections in the previous up move from $680 to $1913.

The C wave of the correction in the chart above reveals some symmetrical subdivisions which confirm that the C wave was completed at $1523 on 29 December 2012. With all the minor waves in place and with the correction being of the correct size, that should be the end of both the correction and Intermediate Wave II.

The probability of this analysis being correct is high, perhaps 75%? Smaller probabilities allow for: (i) this to be an A wave of a larger magnitude correction; (ii) the current correction becoming more complex, perhaps reaching the lower price targets (e.g. -26%); and (iii) the possibility of deflation, defaults and depression emerging, also testing lower price targets.

The up move just starting should thus be Intermediate Wave III of Major Wave THREE, the longest and strongest portion of the bull market. The gain in Intermediate Wave I from $680 to $1913 was 181%. The gain in Intermediate Wave III should be larger, at least a 200% gain. A gain of this magnitude starting from $1523 targets a price over $4,500. The largest corrections on the way to this target, of which there should be two, should be in the 12% to 14% range.

Why Gold is prone to numerous corrections:

Gold is unique amongst metals, partly because it is not consumed, but also because it has some unusual qualities. It has no utility value. One cannot eat it or drink it. It earns no income, does not corrode and does not tarnish. Other qualities include divisibility (a quantity of gold can be divided into smaller quantities) and it is fungible, (one ounce of gold can be substituted for another ounce of gold of the same degree of fineness). There are large stocks of gold available and new annual production has generally been less than 2% of the stock of gold. These are the very qualities that caused gold to be used as money over the millennia.

Other metals and commodities are produced for consumption. When their stocks build up due to supply exceeding demand, holders become forced sellers due to the cost of storage or due to spoilage. Thus the price of the commodity drops to a level where marginal producers go out of business until demand exceeds supply. Then stock levels decline until they are exhausted and conditions of shortage prevail. This results in sharply rising prices for that commodity, eventually attracting new suppliers. In soft commodities, weather conditions can also play havoc with stock levels, causing dramatic price changes.

The point is that with all commodities other than gold, stock levels are important determinants in the price of the commodity. Gold has been accumulated over the years because it was money or as a hedge against a range of fiscal, economic and political risks. The stock of gold relative to new annual gold production has always been high.

In 1971, when the $35 per ounce link between the US dollar and gold was severed, it was assumed that all the gold produced throughout prior history was about 90,000t. This is a rubbery figure and should probably be a higher number. As it is not important to this discussion, we will use 90,000t as a starting point. Over the centuries some gold was lost or was no longer available to the market. If we assume that about 15,000t was lost, it means that in 1971 about 75,000t of gold was available to the market. New production in 1971 was 1,450t, less than 2% of the available stock of gold.

One reliable figure available in 1971 was that gold held by central banks and official institutions was about 37,000t. By deduction, the remaining 38,000t of the available stock must have been owned by investor/hoarders in the form of bullion, coins or jewelry. New production of 1,450t in 1971 was meaningless when compared to stocks of 75,000t. The future gold price was going to be determined by what existing holders of gold did with their stocks and what the level of demand would be from new buyers. For several reasons there was considerable new buying of gold during the 1970’s, resulting in a sharply rising gold price.

Fast forwarding 40 years to our current situation, new mine production over this past 40 year period may have been about 90,000t, of which perhaps 10,000t has been lost or consumed by industry or in jewelry not suitable for reclamation. That leaves 80,000t to be added to the 1971 estimated stock level of 75,000t, giving a current total gold stock of 155,000t. Recent annual production has been about 2,500t, which is still under 2% of the available stock.

Whereas the gold owned by central banks and official institutions in 1971 was a reliable amount of about 37,000t, we no longer have accurate figures for gold held by official sources. We know that central banks have reduced their holdings over the years, either by selling or leasing.

Central banks no longer publish accurate figures of their gold holdings, but for purposes of this discussion, let us assume that the current level is 30,000t, a decline of 7,000t from 1971 levels. The central bank sales of 7,000t must have been absorbed by the investor/hoarders, taking their adjusted total to 45,000t before adding the 80,000t of new production since 1971. That means that new buyers have entered the market over the past 40 years and have swelled the total gold held by investor/hoarders to perhaps 125,000t. (38,000+7,000+80,000). That is a lot of gold!

These numbers are guesstimates as there is no way to substantiate them. The important thing is that the trend indicates that investor/hoarders must own a considerable amount of gold, at least several times larger than the quantity held by central banks. Whenever gold goes to new all time high prices, all investor/hoarders have a profit on their holdings of gold. When the gold price rockets $400 per ounce from $1500 to $1900 in just seven weeks, as it did last July and August, the profits available to investor/hoarders are vast and mouth watering. Not surprisingly, many decide to take some profits while new buyers become cautious due to the rapid price rise.

The result is a correction in the gold price. This is a normal occurrence and will happen from time to time, especially when the gold price pushes to new highs. The natural result of a large stock of gold held by investor/hoarders is that occasional corrections must be expected.

Extent of manipulation in the gold market:

It is hard to visualize much manipulation in the physical market for gold when investor/hoarders own 125,000t and the volume traded is large. The futures market is another story. Gold futures trading became popular in the 1970’s when the price was freed from its $35 per ounce collar. It was possible to control a large amount of gold for a deposit of 10% or less, enabling punters to gear up their positions substantially.

There are many similarities between casinos and futures markets. In a casino the house holds the punter’s money and issues plastic chips for them to gamble with. The odds offered by the casino always favor the house so that there are always more losers than winners, the difference being the profit margin for the casino. In the futures market, every transaction requires someone else to take the opposite bet. Both parties put up the necessary deposits which are held by the market operator. Again losses will always exceed gains, the difference being accounted for by the brokerage and market costs.

In a casino, if one had an unlimited amount of money, one could devise a method of escalating bets so that when one eventually had a win, all prior losses would be recovered plus the desired percentage profit. For example, in roulette over a lengthy period all columns or dozens (the 2 to1 shots) come up slightly less than 33% of the time. A player betting on one of these with unlimited funds would know that sooner or later a winning bet would occur. When it does, the player recovers the cumulative losses plus the desired percentage profit. A foolproof system? Not quite. Casinos impose limits on each table for every bet, which prevents this.

In the futures market it is possible for players with unlimited funds to operate a similar system on the short side of the gold market. As explained in the previous section, corrections do happen in the gold market, especially after the price has risen to new highs. If the player knows that a correction will occur eventually, with unlimited funds he can increase his short position at higher prices until the correction happens. Then he closes his position, hopefully banking a profit.

This could be circumvented by imposing limits on the size of the position that a player can build, just as the casinos impose limits on each type of bet. This is extremely difficult to regulate and monitor in the futures markets. The authorities probably rely on the knowledge that every contract sold short has to be bought back at some time, thus the position is self-correcting. This is true, but the manipulation aspect occurs when the correction has started and the player with the big short position gives the market a nudge on the downside, triggering stop loss orders.

Most players on the long side are operating on margin. That is the attraction of the futures market, to gear up profits. These players are operating with limited funds, so they either have stop loss orders in place, which become market orders when triggered. Or they fail to provide additional cash when their brokers ask for more margin, which causes the broker to sell out their positions, once again placing sell orders “at market”.

“At market” orders are sold at whatever the best buying price is available at that time in the market. If this happens when markets are thin and the major markets are not operating, this can cause an avalanche of selling. The sharp downward spike on 26 September last year is typical of what can happen in these circumstances. That is the time when the “deep pockets” player will probably be covering his short position.

It should be obvious from this that the futures market is an extremely dangerous place in which to participate in the gold market. There are other risks that have only recently come to light regarding futures markets. Sticking with the casino analogy, assume that you have had a bit of luck in the casino and decide to cash in your plastic chips. When you get to the cashiers counter it is closed with a sign saying “Run out of money. Come back tomorrow morning”. You return the next day only to find a sign saying that the casino is bankrupt and is closed! Enquiries elicit the information that the cashier took all the casino’s money, went to a nearby casino and lost the lot.

In the futures market, the operator holds all the cash while the punters have contracts. The operator uses the cash to pay out the winners and cover expenses. Assume that the futures operator decides to take a risky position for the operator’s own benefit in another market but uses the cash contributed by the punters. The risky venture goes sour and the operator goes bankrupt. The punters are left high and dry. While all the facts have yet to emerge, it seems that this is possibly what caused the demise of MF Global.

As the world navigates this period of great financial and economic crisis, we need to be extremely vigilant and cautious with our investments. Be wary of paper claims on gold and always be conscious of the old saying: “Gear today, gone tomorrow”. Limit investments to what one can afford to pay for in cash.

A possible “black swan” event that could trigger a sharp gold rally:

To achieve the EW target of $4,500 on the next upward move will require something to trigger substantial new buying of gold. What could that event be? By definition, it will be a surprise to all market participants, a “black swan” event. That doesn’t prevent us from making a guess.

One likely area from which problems could emerge with very large numbers are derivatives. The Bank for International Settlements produces a list of outstanding derivatives twice a year. The latest report can be found at: http://www.bis.org/statistics/otcder/dt1920a.pdf. This reveals that the total notional value increased from $601 trillion (with a “t”) at December 2010 to $707 trillion at June 2011. Nearly all of the increase was accounted for by interest rate contracts which now have a notional value of $553 trillion, some 78% of the total.

As we discovered in 2008, derivatives are benign until losses occur. Once losses emerged from credit default obligations, it was game on for the GFC. Interest rate derivatives protect banks from interest rate rises. Most banks borrow short but have large loan books at fixed rates for long periods. Thus a big rise in interest rates could trigger claims on these derivatives.

For the time being, rates seem to be locked at virtually zero in the USA, but this is not the case in Europe. Europeans are learning the lesson that rates rise when investors become concerned that the borrower can’t repay the amount borrowed, let alone the interest on the capital. When we drill down further into the BIS statistics at http://www.bis.org/statistics/otcder/dt21a21.pdf we discover that $219 trillion of the interest rate derivatives are denominated in Euros, compared with $170 trillion denominated in US Dollars.

If just 10% of the interest rate derivatives in Euro’s produce losses, the world’s banking system would be looking down the barrel of a loss of $22 trillion. That is enough to bankrupt the entire world’s banking system, something that the politicians of the world could not tolerate. What would a bail out of $22 trillion do to financial markets? What would it do to the gold price?

If it is not interest rates, there are $64 trillion of foreign exchange derivatives and a “mere” $32 trillion of credit default swaps outstanding that could produce “black swan” surprises.

Alf Field

12 January 2012

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John Mauldin – The Matterhorn interview Dec – Jan

December 30th, 2011 by admin golds
We are extremely pleased to feature John Mauldin in this month’s Matterhorn interview.
The author and journalist Lars Schall covers a number of interesting topics with John ranging from how to solve the European problem, the fate of the Euro, gold and the gold standard as well as giving the world an extra injection of Jack Daniels.
We are pleased to publish, at the close of 2011, John’s more balanced and slightly more optimistic view of the world, compared to my own somewhat graver concerns.

May I wish all our readers Peaceful and Healthy 2012

Egon von Greyerz

“LET THEM DEFAULT“

THE MATTERHORN INTERVIEW – December 2011 – January 2012

By Lars Schall

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Investment advisor John Mauldin explains his attitude towards austerity measures; a return of the gold standard; the euro crisis; and the willingness to bailout everyone that makes capitalism and monetary systems stop working.

John Mauldin, president of the investment advisory firm Millennium Wave Advisors, is a renowned financial expert, a multiple New York Times best-selling author, and a pioneering online commentator (see http://www.johnmauldin.com/). His weekly e-newsletter, Thoughts from the Frontline, is the most widely distributed investment newsletter in the world. He also edits the free weekly e-letters Outside the Box and The Mauldin Circle.

Mr. Mauldin, who is a passionate traveler with business partners all over the world, has been published in virtually all financial media and he is a frequent contributor to The Financial Times and The Daily Reckoning, as well as a regular guest on CNBC and Bloomberg TV. His latest book is “Endgame: The End of the Debt Supercycle and How it Changes Everything.“ He regularly speaks to conferences and private groups including The Money Show, The Annual Strategic Investment Conference, The Agora Wealth Symposium, and other investment related venues. John Mauldin currently lives in Dallas, Texas, U.S.A.

Mr. Mauldin, one interesting fact about you is that you’re the inventor of the phrase, “Muddle Through Economy.” Is what we experience in the Western hemisphere a “Muddle Through Economy” on steroids?

John Mauldin: That’s a very good question. When I think about “muddle through,“ I think about an economy that’s growing in the, say, two percent range in the U.S. and one percent in Europe, that’s below trend. Both the U.S. and Europe are certainly in a muddle through mode, it looks to me like Europe is getting ready to go into a recession. Depending on how bad your banking crisis is and how that fades into our system, it could be a recession year. Now, eventually we will get through it, all recessions pass, but I think the West in general is in for a muddle through, slow growth, sideways economy for most of the rest of this decade as we dig through the debt supercycle – we borrowed too much money on the country level, at a local level and at a personal level. De-leveraging cycles do not prevent growth per se. Nevertheless, leveraging is a wonderful thing on the way up, but it is a problem on the way down.

In your book, “Endgame: The End Of The Debt Supercycle And How It Changes Everything,“ you are making the case that we are reaching all over the world the limits of borrowing money by governments. If true, what consequences will that have?

John Mauldin: The consequences means that governments either have to cut back or they have in extreme cases to default on their debts. Greece is not going to pay 100 percent of its debt back; everybody knows that. It is not going to be too long before Italy will find itself in a position where they can’t literally afford to be able to pay 100 percent of its debt back, they will have to discount their debt in some way. There are possibilities how you can do that without actual technical defaults, but the whole process will have negative impacts on economies. When you start going into austerity, to use that word that you can read about everywhere, it will affect the growth of your economy. One problem is, for many economies it is not a one-time austerity deal and then the affect goes away after about a year. It’s like: we have to cut this year, then we will have to cut some more next year, and then we will have to cut some more the year after that, and then we will have to cut some more the year after that – so you put yourself in a permanent spiral of getting down to some place where you have balanced your budget.

This is done by cutting spending or raising taxes, depending on your ability to raise taxes. In the U.S. we have some room to raise taxes, I don’t think it’s a good idea, but we have some room to do so if we decided to. If you’re France, you don’t have much more room to raise taxes. So sometimes you will find yourself in a place where you really have to do cuts, and those cuts are difficult. When the biggest part of your economy is in transfer payments in forms of pensions, Social Security, Health Care or other government services and you have to cut them down, that’s painful. It comes as much as a political problem as it comes as anything else. It definitely impacts the growth ability of the economy. The transition period is very tough, and politicians like to back off from the inevitable as long as they can, but eventually the inevitable comes, eventually you will reach the end of the road.

Related to debt: is the bond market of the last decades a dying dinosaur?

John Mauldin: No, a dinosaur would imply that the bond markets are going to go away. There always will be bond markets. Governments have been defaulting for hundred and hundreds of years, yet there are still bond markets. It’s not a dinosaur, it is not going to get extinct. But people have again to come to realize that governments can in fact default and that there is a moral hazard to buying a sovereign bond. Let us look at what a sovereign bond investor really is. This is not a speculator, this is someone who wants to invest his money and get a guarantee of small amount of return back. He doesn’t want to take risk. And when the bond investors realize that there is risk involved in investing in sovereign bonds, they want higher interest rates and they want to make sure that they will get their capital back.

That’s why certain countries have to pay more. We have already seen that Italy had to go to 6 percent, and if it wasn’t for the European Central Bank (ECB) stepping in, I think the interest rates would be 9 to 10 percent – and Italy makes a big difference: it’s the third biggest bond market in the world. So if Italian rates go through the roof, then Italian debt becomes suspect, the losses are huge, and in fact too big for the private market to absorb, and then there would be a very disorderly crisis. To keep them going off that cliff, the ECB has to figure out how to give money to the Italian banks so that they can buy Italian sovereign debt if the ECB is not willing to do it directly itself. That is an interesting problem.

But can one solve the current debt crisis with more debt?

John Mauldin: No. It’s like I’m drunk and my solution is to get another bottle of Jack Daniels. The problem is that there is already too much debt. Though in the short term supporting debt can help as a bridge loan to have positive cash flow. In Italy’s case such bridge loans might help to get there. So another little drink of Jack Daniels could help, if you will.

Quite a lot of people like to forget about the exotic derivatives that were a major factor in causing the global financial crisis as if this problem did not exist anymore. Do you think that the roughly $ 1 quadrillion in various worthless derivatives alone could be enough to bring the global financial system to its knees?

John Mauldin: Well, you got to be really careful what you mean when you say “derivatives“

Yes.

John Mauldin: There are derivatives of this sort, and there are derivatives of that sort. An option for IBM is a derivative, something in the futures market is a derivative, and I don’t think that those types of derivatives will bring the system down. They can go exponential, and while it may not be a useful financial exercise they are not bringing the system under threat. That is a completely different thing than to say that a derivative as a Credit Default Swap is not a problem. This market could in fact bring the system down, and it could bring it down in a very ugly, disorderly manner, that’s true.

How would a healthier monetary system look if the choice was yours? And do you think that governments have enough sense to introduce such a system?

John Mauldin: Well, the monetary system that we got would be just fine, when you don’t have the leverage, the credit and the deficits that we have. We have to come back to the natural check in a capitalistic system, and that is bankruptcy and default. You should just let them do it. When you are stupid enough to put your money in a currency and debt where the government does stupid things, debases its currency and hurts the value and the buying power of that currency, you should lose your money. This teaches you to be more careful where you put it the next time. That is the tool that makes capitalism work. When you don’t allow defaults and losses, when you try to bailout everybody, that’s when capitalism and monetary systems stop working.

As you know an increasing number of people are stating that we should go back to the gold standard. What is your attitude towards that question?

John Mauldin: I have two attitudes. Number one: it’s a non-starter, it will never happen. We can talk about it all we want, it is just a nice theory. For all practical purposes, Greece is now under a gold standard, which is called the euro, and they are in a place where they can’t get out of their position, they can’t work out of it, they can’t print their own currency and devalue, their labor is overvalued, etc. That’s quite similar to the classical gold standard. If you want to go on a gold standard, fine –but you have to recognize the limitations that you will have. The main problem that you face with being on a gold standard or being not on a gold standard is the willingness of super-bankers and politicians to get rid of the limitations and debase their currency. And I think most people when they say: I want to be on a gold standard – what they are really saying is: I don’t trust central bankers and I want to have some neutral currency. I totally agree with that. I mean, I buy gold every month and take it in physical delivery. I hope I will never need it, though for me it’s an insurance, I don’t see it as an investment – I buy it because I don’t trust the banksters.

Yes.

John Mauldin: I am an optimist, I hope it all will work out well, but just in case I buy it, like I buy fire insurance and health insurance – I hope I don’t need either. Nevertheless, there are mechanisms of the growth of the money supply where you don’t have a debasement issue of your currency. It’s when you start to have Quantative Easings, when you start to mess with the system, then you’re running into problems. The Swiss haven’t had a problem, they don’t need a gold standard – they are the standard. The problems are rather Central Banks and Governments who want to fix something, because everytime the governments want to fix things, they create more problems to fix. It’s the fixing of the problem that creates the problem, if you will.

Do you believe the euro, that you have once called an experiment rather than a currency, is a thing to last?

John Mauldin: If the question is about the euro as it is today, the answer is certainly no. There is going to have to be some serious adjustments. An adjustment could be a fiscal union, if the voters in the various European countries vote to submit themselves to a central authority – or in other words:

if the German government get its will and create a father figure in Brussels, who tells the others how to run their budgets correctly and otherwise they got to do their homework.

But let’s assume you were a European citizen: would you like to have such a father figure that rules over a core element of the sovereinity of your country?

John Mauldin: Well, what the Germans are asking for is a balanced budget or you can only run a 0.5 to 1 percent structural deficit, and that’s a really good idea. This is what Keynes in his original work has said, not what is said about him today. Keynes’ original concept was that in the good times you pay down the debt, and in the bad times you can borrow money – but you pay it back when things get better.

Yes.

John Mauldin: So you don’t run up a never ending debts and built up a supercycle of debt. In the U.S. in the late 1990′s we had actually reduced our total debt, and if we would have kept on that path, if the Bush government and the Republicans – I say this as a Republican – wouldn’t have run ever increasing deficits, we would have entered the credit crisis in 2008 with very little debt. So I think it is a good thing when the Germans are saying in essence that they want a limit on the ability of governments to run deficits, a limit on the ability of governments to spend money in order to prevent the creation of financial crises. This is reasonable. But they have to do it themselves, too.

Yes, of course, that’s quite ironic right now.

John Mauldin: Yes, nevertheless, in theory it’s a good thing. Will they do it? No. That is one of the reasons, if I am buying gold as an investment, I am not buying gold in dollar terms, I am buying gold in shorting the euro, I don’t buy gold in euro or yen terms, because I think they are in a worst shape than the dollar. Given the make-up of all the major currencies around, the U.S. dollar is the prettiest girl in a ugly girl contest.

With what kind of emotions do you look at the housing bubble in China? Do you think the Chinese economy will receive a very rude awakening?

John Mauldin: Eventually yes. They haven’t learned to repeal the business cycle, but it can go on for a lot longer than anyone of us can imagine. If you have a close capital system, which they do, the bank lending that we observe there can go on for quite some time. Now do they try to bring their housing bubble down? Yes. Will they be able to bring it down to a level where it can’t lead into a crisis? They may. Do they in principal have more people that want housing than they have adequate housing? Yes. The question becomes: adequate housing at what price? So they may have to go through a pricing adjustment mechanism. But that will be really a short term problem. Do I expect China to have a bigger economy that’s more successful and more intimidating in ten years than it is today? Absolutely. But to think that they can go through without some type of serious slowdown or recession for ever and ever, that is just not a reasonable thing. You can’t grow to the sky. Eventually you have to begin to settle the debts out and figure out how you get into the balance.

What advice would you like to give our readers in order to survive the hard times we’re going to have?

John Mauldin: I think that the readers should recognize that the hard times will be over the sooner or later in the next five to ten years, it’s hard to say, because politicians can try to kick the can down the road a lot longer than we can imagine – but we’ll get through it. Your goal now as investors should be to try to go through with as much capital and as much buying power to the other side as you possibly can. Because when we get to the other side, when the dust settles, I believe there will be a tremendous boom in the world. That boom will be probably more in the emerging markets, but there will be tons of new technologies, there will be tons of new things within Europe and within the U.S.A., that you will be able to invest in. To give you an example: we used to think of Japan as a problem, but there is a market over the last few years within Japan that’s been up 50 percent, and it’s their robotic stocks. If you would have just invested in robotic stocks a couple of years ago when they were at the bottom, you would have done just fine. Why? Because robotics is a booming industry, and it becomes more and more profitable. So there are places where we will going to find to invest money, and I want to be as cautious as I can during this inter-period, I want fixed income, I want hard assets, I want things that going to pay me money and that are going to get me to the other side, but I think there will be a big booming bull market coming, and we want to get as much capital as we can, we want to save as much as we can in order to get to that opportunity when it does come.

Do you think it is “too late to jump on the gold wagon“ and invest in gold if one sees it as an investment? (1)

John Mauldin: If one sees gold as an investment, probably not, and certainly not when you are living in Europe, when you’re in the euro zone – no. But what you have to watch closely is: If you think that Greece, Portugal and Italy will leave the euro, then the euro will become a lot stronger and you should sell your gold in terms of euros. If you see Germany leaving, then the euro could be a real screaming sell in terms of gold, and so your gold would become quite valuable in terms of euros. So it depends what you believe will happen in the case of a break-up, if the strong countries are leaving or the weak countries are leaving, I don’t think it’s clear yet. My guess is that the weak countries would be the ones that leave, so in the long term, two years from now, three years from now, the euro will be stronger, but in the meantime it will go down against the dollar.

Thank you very much for taking your time, Mr. Mauldin!

SOURCE:

(1) Compare Egon von Greyerz: “TOO LATE TO JUMP ON THE GOLDWAGON?”, published at GoldSwitzerland on August 15th, 2011


King World News Interview – Egon von Greyerz – 29 Dec

December 30th, 2011 by Egon von Greyerz

When I spoke to Eric King almost two weeks ago with gold at $1,600, I said that we could go down to $1530-50 or even $1,410-20 and probably before year end.

Yesterday Eric interviewed me again. Gold has been down as low as $1,522 and Eric told me that a lot of investors are very nervous.

Let me be very clear. There is absolutely no change in the outlook:

  • Gold is going down in a very thin paper market. We see no  sellers of physical gold.
  • This is the typical market that the manipulators take advantage of to push the price down.
  • None of the fundamentals have changed so don’t be fooled by a holiday lull.
  • Gold will reflect the massive QE required in 2012 for the financial system to survive.
  • Gold is up in all currencies in 2011. That makes it 12 years of straight gains.
  • We will see much a much higher gold price in 2012.

Click here for a written summary of the interview.
The full audio will be out on 31 Dec.


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